Standard lube on Lee Tumble lube boolit??

What happens if you use a lubrisizer on a TL boolit?
Is the lube grooves to shallow to do any good?

It depends upon how much sizing you need to do, what lube you're using, and the velocity you're trying to achieve. I'm shooting the Lee TL312-160-2R in my 30-06s and 308s, but they drop .311"-.312" and I L&S in a .311" die. My normal loads for these are in the 1800-2000fps range, and I'm using my own lube that I prefer to LBT Blue. If you need to size enough that the grooves are mostly gone, lubing first with 45-45-10, sizing, and lubing again might be more than adequate. Try it....

I use the same boolit as excess650 in some 30 cal. I size .311 and use Felix lube. Most boolits carry too much of this lube. I see no evidence of lube starvation so I spose it's working.

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I used to use a Lee TL boolit in my .38S&W pistols with 50/50 stick lube in my lube sizer. I just lubed the boolits in the sizer didn't reduce their diameter and the TL grooves held sufficient stick lube for that round at least.

As has been said it all depends on your application and if the sized boolit will hold sufficient lube for your purpose.

I tried that once just to see; seemed to work fine. But I wasn't sizing down but .001" or so. Since you can always recycle a test boolit, you too can try it and see.

"Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.", old Chinese proverb.

I usually do it the other way around. Alox lube on traditional lube groove handgun boolits.

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Best Lube and technique for LEE bullets with tumble lube grooves ?

What seems to be the best for these type bullets.
Will be shooting the LEE C312-185-1R about 1800-1900fps

I tumble lube them with LLA. That's what they were designed for.

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I hand lube with Felix lube, run through a Lee die to remove excess. The boolits work very good with a real lube.

I hand lube with Felix lube, run through a Lee die to remove excess. The boolits work very good with a real lube.
I was kinda leaning this way.
Was thinking trying Pan lubing them

What seems to be the best for these type bullets.
Will be shooting the LEE C312-185-1R about 1800-1900fpsThe C312-185-1R has regular lube grooves, at least mine does and all the others I've seen. I suggest if you want to TL those bullets for that velocity you follow Lee's LLA directions. The directions are simple and straight forward and if done correctly the LLA lube will work fine for that bullet at that velocity assuming the alloy and powder used are correct and the GCs are seated correctly.

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The C312-185-1R has regular lube grooves, at least mine does and all the others I've seen. yep. The only TL rifle bullets are the 312-160 and 312-155 bullets. I pan lube my 312-185s with WWVA. You could tumble lube them and they'd be fine, though.

yep. The only TL rifle bullets are the 312-160 and 312-155 bullets. I pan lube my 312-185s with WWVA. You could tumble lube them and they'd be fine, though.What is WWVA ?

WWVA lube;
4 oz. paraffin
4 oz petroleum jelly
2 oz. Lee Liquid Alox
2 heaping tablespoons Johnsons Paste Wax [carnuba wax]
Heat components until all melted, then pan or dip lube. May require a heater for the Lyman or RCBS lubrisizers.

If you get your shots in the black, the 10s and Xs will take care of themselves.

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new to tumble lube bullets quick question

I am now using a tumble lube lee mould. My question is can I run the tumble lube bullets through my lee sizer?
Thanks

Yes. Then tumble lube again after sizing.

Yes. And Lee recommends lubing the bullet with alox prior to sizing, and tumble lube after. Some do, some don't. I use my case lube (mink oil boot dressing) and that works fine. If you measure your gun (cylinder throats, groove diameter) and measure the bullets, you may not need to size. My first mold was a Lee .44 cal. T/L mold, and in the 17 years since, I've cast thousands with that mold, sized about 1/2, and T/L 90% of them...

If I'm not mistaken, part of the theory behind the tiny lube grooves on TL boolits is that they crush easier than standard driving bands.

This should allow you to shoot them unsized, letting your throat/barrel do the sizing. My only headache with this method was if my 6-cavity had any oddball cavities, then those didn't seat as easily with my chosen minimal case bell. Some lead shaving would occur unless I increased the bell.

Since lapping the cavities this problem has pretty much gone away.

And, I've found (as suggested by ranch dog) that wd40 works for sizing lube. I'll bet a lot of different lubricants would work. Then tumble lube afterward. Until you get a handle on how very very little tumble lube is needed, I think one coat is easier to control.

I would also try the 45/45/10 tumble lube from White Label Lube. He is a sponsor here and comes highly recommended. It is much easier to work with than the Alox. I haven't bought any from him yet as I made my own before he started making it. But I plan on it when I need some. It lasts for a lonnnnnng time. And after you make your own and find out how much work it is and the cost of supplies you will gladly pay the 15 dollars for a 32 oz. bottle of it.

Here is that sticky: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?67654-Tumble-Lubing-Made-Easy-amp-Mess-Free

+1 for tumbling, sizing, and RE-TUMBLING. Had lots of leading at first because I skipped the last step. Definitely do it twice.

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+1 read the sticky, its got all the questions and answers

I have been loading the 358/125 gr.I have been using the 45/45/10 lube.light lube /resize to 358/light lube. I did not know if I could resize the tl's due too the bands.I would sooner resize them to 358 then re lube. I have made my own lube with xlox/jpw and ms.I would like to thank every one for all the help.

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