Jacket length vs bullet weight

My Google fu isn't doing well on this one.

I appreciate that the shape provided by the point form die will make this variable, but is there a chart somewhere that shows the suggested jacket length for bullets of a certain caliber and weight?

For instance, perhaps a 22 jacket 0.705 long is good for bullets between 50 and 55 grains.

Help appreciated

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Sizing Jacket Bullets

Considering buying a .450 Bushmaster barrel for my Savage project gun. A nice 16.5" heavy barrel dropped into a synthetic stock with a 1X Scope will be a dream for very close quarters work on white tail here in MI. Also make turning in a blind quickly without the muzzle bumping the walls easy. The bore diameter for this round is .452 (which was huge mistake in my opinion with the availability of several fine .458 diameter bullets in the 250-350 Gr range.) My question is.... How hard is it to push a .458 projectile (well lubed of course) through a .452 Lee bullet sizer? 6 thou doesn't sound like a lot but I ask this question now before I come back later asking how to get it "Un-Stuck" from the die. Will they just pop right through no problem?

Jeff

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I wouldn't attempt a .006 reduction on a .458 bullet in a single pass. If it were me, I'd try to limit it to .004 steps.

I've sized .458 to .454 in a single pass and you'll want to make sure that you have some good lube and a reasonably strong press. Make sure your die is clean and ready as well.

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I went with the 50 Beowulf for the very reason we are discussing. The availability of good .452 bullets in a rifle is dismal. The popularity of the 500 S&W makes good .500 bullets easy to get. Same goes for the 458 Socom. My brother chose the Socom and I chose the Beowulf. I believe sizing a 458 bullet down to 452 would be a mistake. Too many bad things can happen to a bullet sized down that far.

Bob

I have sized down jacketed 0.429" 300gr 44s to 0.423" for use as plinkers in my 404jeffery, a reduction of 0.006". they shoot pretty well, 2" @ 100yds is pretty common. I did it using the Lee dies & doing them in steps of 0.427" then 0.423". I went that way as I only wanted to have the one custom die made, the 0.427" was a std size. If having one made I would go 0.003" smaller, then to the final diameter. I may open my 0.427" to 0.426" to make final swaging easier. It does take a bit of force even using Imperial. I don't shoot a lot of the 404J, but bullets are more than $1 each, so swaging the 300gr is worth a little effort. BTW, I am running these about 2100fps. If you use a FMJ, you have no worriesa bout a jacket slipping the core, but you can also use a bonded bullet like the SGDHP if you are worried aout core slippage.

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The other thing that may happen is the jacket could separate from the core. If that happens, all kinds of nasty things might happen. I would not recommend it.

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Pointed Soft Point "Core Lokt"

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.22 Caliber Jacket Trim Die

Who would be interested in a .224 caliber jacket trim die? .............. U.P. North
What lengths from shortest to longest on the jackets would need to be trimmed?
You can also post your interest at this thread in the Vendor Sponsor section: http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?193746-Jacket-Tim-Dies

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Jacket lubing & the Pickle Jar

Getting old and standing at the press for countless hours is getting tiring. I've been lubing jackets by hand forever but want to save some time using the pickle jar & my tumbler.

For those using the jar, do you put the jar inside the tumbler drum or on top of the wheels like the drum itself? Need to go out and find the right size pickle jar.

Thanks
P.S. Starting up my operation again so I may be posting more questions to see more modern ways of doing things.

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Jacket Trim Dies

This is a set of jacket trim dies I made for a individual from the forum. The price for these is $167.00 shipped. These are for a standard reloading press. These are made from tool steel and the punch and die body are hardened.

Here is a link in the Vendor Sponsor section.http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?193746-Jacket-Tim-Dies-(-308-quot-)&p=2149358#post2149358

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