Well now, you don't see this everyday Teaparty and Democrats working together?

Originally Posted by TxFlyFish We texans must come to our senses that this bill would be a strategic win for 2015 legislative session, where we can use it as a strong leverage to extend its freedoms to everyone, ie if our legislators can carry it why can't the rest of chl holders, what makes them any more responsible than us?A few years ago, that was the story LEOs handed us when they came to the gun forums asking all of us "civilians" to support HR 218 (which passed and is now the LEOSA). Their story then was that "it's just a foot in the door, if you support getting national carry for us we'll help get it for everybody."

How many years has the LEOSA been in effect? And exactly how many LEOs have you seen actively and publicly advocating for national concealed carry rights for "the rest of us"?

2004, that's when. NINE years ago.

NONE, that's how many. We were used. We bought into it, and we created a class of special citizens, with rights not enjoyed by "the rest of us." And they're perfectly happy to leave it there, because they got theirs. Don't believe for an instant that legislators would be any different. A legislator is NOT any better of a person than I am, and there is no reason whatever for legislators to have rights and privileges not equally granted to their constituents.

Originally Posted by TxFlyFish We lose absolutely nothing if this bill had passed, and had it passed it would be just a matter of time until the same liberties are extended to us. It would be political suicide not to do soI respectfully and vehemently disagree. IMHO it would be political suicide to support a bill such as this. Originally Posted by TxFlyFish These things have a much bigger scope than just principles.If I abandon my principles, what am I?

Reminds me of a story. A well-to-do man approaches a gorgeous young lady in a bar and asks if she'll sleep with him for a million dollars. She says "Sure." He responds, "How about for ten bucks?" The young lady gets very insulted and replies, "What do you think I am, a common whore?"

To which the gentleman responds, "We've already established that, now we're just negotiating your price."

I know my price, and they can't afford it.

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