Springfield Armory M6 Scout?

So a while ago, I kind of wanted one of those M6 scouts... I remember when Savage has actually come out with that Model 42, which was actually pretty cool. It looked good (imo) and featured either .22lr or .22 magnum rifle with a .410 shotgun. Now Savage didn't incorporate any compartments for ammo storage, etc like the M6 scout.

Now today, I was wondering, why hasn't anyone tried to do something that the M6 scout did? I'm going to take a wild guess and say Springfield Armory owns the rights to the M6, but why has no one tried to do something like this, either by aquiring rights, or simply building their own design?

Now why would they do this? Because the need (mostly WANT) exists for such things. Because really, who the hell would buy the Savage Model 42? I mean, what's special about it? The only thing worth noting is the fact that it's a COMBINATION GUN. And there really is a market for these things. The M6 scout on gunbroker? Normally reach 1000 dollars, and you know what? People are buying them, even for that kind of money!

People want things like the M6 scout. They were a ruggedly designed survival combination gun, that looked awkward and had a strange trigger, but offered great features like ammo storage in the stock and was able to be broken down for easy storage, or whatever one would need the feature for.

Has any company even tried to do something like this again?

I mean, am I the only one who thinks the M6 Scout was this "great" thing? I mean, surely someone has to agree that they were awesome, right? 'Cause the people buying them for $1000 a pop sure do.

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Need help crimping Lee 405 grain HB boolit for my Trapdoor Springfield

Boolit Mold Join DateAug 2011Posts2

Hi folks-

I'm a newbie to boolit casting, but I am sliding farther and farther down that slippery slope.

I just purchased a Trapdoor Springfield and am casting some 405 grain boolits using the Lee hollow base single cavity die (Lee Item #90268). No problems casting the boolits, (well, nothing that a 30 lb fire extinguisher couldn't fix) but I have a question about seating them.

The boolit has 3 grease grooves, and above the last grease groove their is a small ring, not a flat or a crimping groove or cannelure.

Should I crimp this above the ring, or below it in the third grease groove? I tried crimping above the ring, but did not get much of a crimp.

I have attempted to attach a picture.

Any help would be much appreciated. I hope to shoot the old girl on the 4th of July.

That bullet does not have a crimp groove, I'd crimp it in the top grease groove if that length will chamber.

No need to crimp in a single shot.
Forget about it.

That is THE boolit for the Trapdoor, I had great results over 10-14 gr of Unique.

Bill

If it was easy, anybody could do it.

MG,

I use that bullet in several Trapdoor rifles.

As mentioned above by Mtgun44; no need to crimp with smokeless, but it's a different game with black powder. Do you plan to use smokeless or black powder?

Those big lube grooves carry a lot of lubricant and with an SPG lube (or facimilee) you probably don't need to lube the top lube groove when using smokeless. With BP, you'll probably want to fill all the lube grooves and crimp over the top rim. With smokeless powder, I've had good luck using an NRA 50/50 lube with the bullet cast pretty soft.

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Keep your powder dry,

Scharf

No need to crimp in a single shot.
Forget about it.

That is THE boolit for the Trapdoor, I had great results over 10-14 gr of Unique.

Bill

Concur.

Why do you think that you need to crimp the boolit?

What are you trying to achieve by doing so?

BTW, welcome to Cast Boolits mgillespie!

Boolit Mold Join DateAug 2011Posts2

Thanks for the help guys.

I thought the 45-70 needed to be crimped. The only experience I have with it is some of the Hornady lever revolution factory ammo, and it has a roll crimp. Of course, that is designed for a lever action. I didn't know a crimp would not be needed for the single shot.

I'm going to load with smokeless for now. I'm planning on my first loads being 26 grains of IMR 4198. I have that powder and I have read several recommendations for it.

Off to the loading press tonight.

Thanks again to all for the help.

No need for crimp at all. Bill told you right.

As mentioned, no need to crimp with that load.

Larry Gibson

MtGun44,

Do you use any filler over your charge of Unique, if so what do you use?

Thanks

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Springfield XDM 9: the "just right" ccw gun?

generally speaking there are a lot more Glock owners than there are XDM owners so you may find this discussion a bit 1 sided.

all of those things you listed about the XDM compact the compact glocks also have. the XDM packs the most features into a single package however. it's bigger than the 26(or whatever their smallest 9mm option is) but smaller than the glock 19. it has higher ammo caps than both but all can take the full sized mags where the glock has the advantage of 33 round mags though I don't see much practical purpose of buying a compact gun and then using a mag that triples it's height and weight.

a lot of glock owners like the simplicity of the design and abhor the grip safety and single action trigger of the XDM(I guess too reminiscent of the 1911). I generally shoot glocks better than XDMs(with the exception of my XDM45compact) but I flat out hate the ergonomics of glocks.

IMO, XDMS feel better, have better factory triggers, better ammo cap across the board(equal in the case of 45ACP models), and are more utilitarian in design(more uses in one package without having to resort to several specialized models per caliber). I also prefer the added protection of the grip safety for CCW as I have read numerous reports of neglegent discharges of glocks while carrying. Springfield also has never had to recall it's XDMs and does not have chronic recurring issues like glocks GEN 4 and new gen3s(erratic ejection patterns, spring problems ETC).

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Just picked up my Springfield Pro!

Hope to shoot it tomorrow.

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Price Check - Springfield Armory Ultra Compact 1911 9MM

I have a friend at work that is wanting to sell the above camera Well, it's not so much a complete camera as it is a flash unit.

Seriously, though, if it's in good shape and functional $500 would be a steal. They go for over double that new. Probably about double that in decent condition used. Still, the small 1911s can be temperamental. Springfield Armory is good at helping things get sorted, but if it works it's definitely worth that. If it doesn't work I'd wonder why but expect SA to help me get it right.

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Springfield TRP

I own a TRP. Excellent shooting gun and mine is totally reliable. My buddy bought one after shooting mine and he too thinks the gun is fantastic as well.

Really nothing bad to say about the TRP, but if I had to, the FLGR is a solution in search of a problem. I replaced mine for under $20 with an Ed Brown GI Rod and plug. Otherwise, I have no complaints and it would make an excellent carry gun if you prefer to carry a full sized gun.

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Springfield GI Champion: any experiences?

Just got back from the range.

field stripped the Champion and cleaned and lubed before shooting.
I greased the rails with Enos Slide Glide.....

100 rounds fired with ZERO malfunctions!
From 10 yds out, I was making a ragged hole in the target.

Nothing to gripe about, just perfect function from this 1911.

took it home, field stripped and cleaned/lubed.....
Now it sits in my safe, cocked and locked, and stoked with Golden Saber JHP

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