Newbie needs recipe help

Yes, C.O.L. = overall length.
From Hodgdon's web site reloading data page,
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

115 GR. LRN IMR PB .356" 1.100" 3.3 974
26,900 PSI 3.7 1061 32,500 PSI

115 GR. SPR GDHP IMR PB .355" 1.125" 3.6 957 28,300 PSI 4.0 1038 32,000 PSI

While the FMJ bullets, that you have, aren't that much different than either of the two types that Hodgdon recommends for that powder, it's enough to cause concern.
From the data above, it's obvious that similar, but different, bullets require very different loads, for the same results.
The bullet shape, design and material all make a difference in the loading data.
Generally, jacketed bullets have more friction down the barrel than lead, requiring more powder for the same velocity.
But the additional friction also adds pressure.
Without a way to test each and every type of bullet, substitution can be hap hazard and possibly dangerous.
If those FMJs and the PB powder were the very last components on the planet, maybe it would be worth experimenting.
It would be be better to just get the recommended powder for the bullets you want to use.

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Happy newbie with new mold

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After having a bad day at work,i come home and in the mailbox is a little box from accurate molds. Good way to end the day,so I had to clean the mold up and fire up the pot and try it out.The mold is a 502325g and is very nice to cast with.I did notice that the aluminum mold really likes to be hot to cast well.Now I just need to let the boolits set for a few days,check and size them and see how the model83 likes them.Hopefully they shoot as nice as they look.Anyone else on here shoot a 50ae?I also cast the rcbs 340gr boolit but wanted something a little lighter to play with.

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Newbie Reloading set up

I assume you'll eventually get to rifle reloading.

Some products that will assist.

Case length headspace gage

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/880646/le-wilson-case-length-headspace-gage-308-winchester?cm_vc=S014

Redding Competition Seater Die

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/200390/redding-competition-seater-die-308-winchester?cm_vc=S014

Hornady Cam-Lock Case Trimmer Kit

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/315831/hornady-cam-lock-case-trimmer-kit

And above all READ, YOUTUBE, ASK, LEARN, PRACTICE!

And write everything down! Get a laoding manual and keep track of what gives you the best groupings. Work your loads up accurately. inspect your cases carefully, do each step by the book ensuring you are doing everything the same way (and the right way) every time. After working up a series of loads you'll find what works best.

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Newbie. Vendors that offer cast bullets

Is there a list of vendors that offer the cast/swagged bullets that many here produce on their own? Ive got serval military rifles that I would like to try "lead' bullets in but I dont want to get into casting. I rather just purchase finished lead bullets. Ive searched the 'net and found some vendors but would perfer to get input from you all.

Thanks,
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Newbie greats

Hi,

Interesting discussion about hunting between "Sus scrofa" and others convinced me to join that forum. It was a pleasure to listen someone who knows what he does and why. I hope to find here interesting and kind people when trying to solve my shooting related problems.

Best regards

Hormon aka Andrzej

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Newbie desire.. which lever action rifle?

Yesterday, 07:57 AM .

Welcome to the forum, TBar !

The only place to find a used Model 92, besides in an LGS near you, would be at a funshow or online ( in a forum classifieds ad or a gun sale or auction website like gunbroker or gunsamerica).

You're going to find that most owners selling original Winchester 1892/92's are quite proud of them, and their prices reflect it (high).
Expect to pay $700-800 for a shooter, up to $2500 or more for a pristine collectible specimen.

Most shooter's find the South Americam made Rossi Model 92 a very acceptable substitute @ $500 (new), and "whatever" for a used example.
.357's seem to bring more $$ than the .44's & .45's; all are available in 16" barreled Carbines.
The Rossi's are not as smooth as an original Winchester, but with a little love applied can be made so.

A bit more costlier (2x) are the same M92 Puma rifle, made in Italy by Chiappa (lately).

Much more nicely fit & finished, however, (IF you can find one) are the discontinued Japanese-made (Miroku) 20" bbl'd Browning B92's ( .357 or .44Mag) - basically the same rifle & maker as the current "Winchesters". (about $700, +/-, in good condition)

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Feed a starving man a fish & he will eat for a day - Teach the man how to fish & he will never starve again. Last edited by Rangr44; Yesterday at 08:01 AM. Yesterday, 02:58 PM Originally Posted by hunter1 Welcome to the forum. I have a love for lever guns also. I started off 50yrs ago with a Win 94 my uncle had, Learned to shoot with it. My dad bougth me a Marlin 336 in 30/30, I hunted for 20 yrs with her. I like the marlins better than the winchesters because they have an actual bolt and side ejection, bore sighting is made easy by removing the bolt and also for cleaning.The new wins are pricey for what you get. If i wanted a 94 ,i would go with a nice condition used one in 30/30/ On the other hand the marlins you can go new, I have them in 30/30/ , 45/70. New win will cost you about 1200 , 1300 dollers. They are not made by winchester. Marlins will run about $400. to $700, and they have more modles to choose from.
Welcome! I have handled a lot of recent Remlins, I mean Marlingtons, including several that were shipped very recently and I wouldn't have one as a gift - honestly. If you prefer a real Marlin, look for them used - the .30-30, .32 and .35 Rem 336s are still very easy to find used and very affordable - and the quality is THERE.

If you're really interested in a 92, the Rossis are very affordable and very inconsistent - if you are an educated buyer and can pick from several that you can handle in person, you can do extremely well, but I would not buy one sight unseen.

Today, 06:03 AM Originally Posted by JNewell Welcome! I have handled a lot of recent Remlins, I mean Marlingtons, including several that were shipped very recently and I wouldn't have one as a gift - honestly. If you prefer a real Marlin, look for them used - the .30-30, .32 and .35 Rem 336s are still very easy to find used and very affordable - and the quality is THERE.

If you're really interested in a 92, the Rossis are very affordable and very inconsistent - if you are an educated buyer and can pick from several that you can handle in person, you can do extremely well, but I would not buy one sight unseen.

I agree with you, All my Marlins are real Marlins, built by Marlin. I would deffinatly look for an ; lets say a pree 2007 one. I think they sold or merged with Remi at that time. A friend of mine just bought a a 336 in 35 rem for $250.00 , great buy rifle was like new condition.




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Newbie started a derimming die.

I've been lurking for a month or so. Saw Ammosmiths video a few years ago about making .223 from 22lr and have been intrigued ever since. (The main reason I reload rifle, pistol, and shotgun, is not being able to purchase when I want to. Now it's getting to where you can find components.) I've done a lot of research on the internet and finally decided to start with couple of grade 3 and grade 5 bolts. Today I started on a grade 3 bolt, turned the head down to shaft diameter and knurled the non threaded section. Then I drilled it out to 3/8". Maybe this weekend I can bore it out to .500 inch for the drill bushing to insert, and make a punch out of the 7/16" grade 3 bolt.

Also ordered a 3' piece of .250 W1 drill rod, and a 3' piece of 4140 pre hardened in 7/8", that will be at the local Grainger store tomorrow. I'll have to wait 2 weeks for the 2 drill bushings I ordered, one for derimming and one for core swaging, if I can make it work. So far I figure I could have bought at least 500 .223 projectiles for what I've spent. I also noticed that they carry the cast iron rod, so I'll be ordering some of that too.

Thanks for a great site and all the info,
Ken

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First casting from newbie

Rounded bands and wrinkling are caused by a mould that hasn't reached its optimum casting temperature. Wrinkles are caused by a mould that hasn't been cleaned properly or enough.

Clean the mould and pre-heat it, using a hot plate. A hot plate and mold oven is even better.

Toss them back in the pot and go at it again.

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Newbie Alox question...

I casted/sized/lubed a bunch of 10mm bullets and decided to let them dry outside, overnight. It happened to rain on them. Should I lube them again, or should they be good to go?

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Bring them in and let them dry off. How do they look? I do not think alox will dissolve in water so they should be a ok. If you are worried, do another little tumble and you will be good to go. I would not leave them outside in case of any contamination sticking to the alox. The last thig you need is debis stuck to the lube being fired down your bore.

Never have heard of water-soluble Alox. Unless you found some and used it, you're all right.

"You are not a hoarder until you have exceeded a lifetime supply"

I brought them in...they're in my spare bedroom on the floor with wax paper...I don't think my wife is a fan of it, though!

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She "let you" bring them in ? Wow good women. The smell should of got you kicked out of the house ! Your ok as posted above. I personally hate the smell of it and wont even try to bring them inside till very dry.
I made the mistake of giving my wife a revolver years ago,..... I never thought ahead about bringing in alox boolits and cleaning guns inside the house !

Mike

I don't care for the Alox odor much, either. That stuff stays in the garage. I like its work as boolit lube, but as a room deodorizer......not so much.

Specific to Lee Liquid Alox......I used it for paper-patch lube in the past, and it seems to have a water-proofing effect for the patches to some degree. I don't think water exposure causes harm, but rain and runoff can have grit and dust within it. No good for bores if the grit has any size to it.

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Something I learnt some time ago, if you want to keep the woman in your life out of your `Man Cave` make sure that you have 3 things in there. Lee Liquid Alox, Hoppes No.9 and Ballistol.
Works every time!

ukrifleman.

Apparently, they're OK. I took them into the "man cave" to do some loading, and all of the Alox is still there...

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alox is used as spray on rust proofing under car fenders and such.

it's all an educated guess,,,, till the trigger is pulled.

the more i find out about shootin boolits, the more it contradicts everything i ever learned about shooting jaxketed.

Something I learnt some time ago, if you want to keep the woman in your life out of your `Man Cave` make sure that you have 3 things in there. Lee Liquid Alox, Hoppes No.9 and Ballistol.
Works every time!

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New newbie has a question

I have a S&W mountain gun in 41 mag. I really like shooting a 170 gr SW in it. The problem is the only place I can find that bullet is from Penn Bullets it is a great cast bullet and I can load it hot and do not get any leading but it takes a long time to get an order from him. I looked at Mountain Molds where you can design your own and found that I can get a mold from them. My question is can you just buy the alloy and melt and cast your bullets from that. What would I have to do to get that process to work. I really like an 170 gr in my 4 inch MG. Thanks from some one that has not cast their first bullet.

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Yes......and I will help you,if you want to drive to Clarksville.

Welcom to the CastBoolits:
You're gonna to need some stuff. Melting pot and heat source. Electric melting setup w/pot. Some sort of sizer, ie. Lyman, RCBS, Saeco, Lee push through, etc. A place to melt and cast without breathing all of the fumes. And on, and on, and on.
Check out some of the threads on casting. You will find a lot "LOTS" of information here.
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I have been reading threads on here for a long time and I am still lost. Thats why I hoped I could just buy an alloy from some one like Missouri Bullets and melt it and cast the bullets then size lube, my gun does like .411 sized bullets and does not lead from target loads to melt the barrel loads. Taylor I drove by Clarksville today went down to vist my parents in KY. where I was born and raised, but I just retired last wk. and we are moving to SD the first of May so it would be a long drive from there.I would really like to learn how to cast. I will have a 45 x 50 Morton metal building with a concrete floor to work in.

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BRNO .308 lee mold and sizing question (newbie)

I have not done any casting before and have some questions.

I have done quite a bit of searching of the site and reading of various threads and have a couple of questions which I am hoping someone could help me with.

I have BRNO 601 in .308 which I am hoping to cast and reload for. I have been looking at various Lee molds and am think about getting a LEE MOULD D C C309-150-F.

My questions are does anyone have a Brno that they cast for and what mold did you use? And with what results?

My other question is regarding resizing and gas checks. My understanding is that I need to use gas checks and that to fit them it is normal to use a resized to fit the gas checks. If this is the case what size resizing die should I use for bullets cast from the LEE MOULD D C C309-150-F, for my .308 BRNO.

Thanks for any help in advance. This site is an amazing resource to learn from.

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