Thursday, June 20, 2013

Anyone casting for a 9mm or .40 Glock?

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I am slowly getting my setup together, and am now in the mold searching phase. I am looking to cast for a Glock 9mm and a .40, and really need some advice on getting it right the 1st time. Molds are kind of expensive right now, not to mention are hard to come by if you are looking for one priced reasonably, so I want to make sure that I only buy it once if possible. If you were starting out, where would you begin in looking for the needed molds and such for them? I've heard that it is ok to shoot lead out of Glocks, and have heard that it makes them go Boom. As I don't have any experience either way, I am going to toss it out to you guys for your wisdom and advice. I'm always impressed with the level of knowledge around here, and that usually people are very helpful and non-condescending when answering questions of us Noobs. Thanks for anything you can share with me on this, it is greatly appreciated.
I use a 357/38 mold sized to .357. it is a lee 358-125-rf for 9mm in my glock 19. It works great. As for a 40 I have not cast any yet. I have put 1500 of them through my glock with vary little leading.
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Bwana is offline Boolit Master Join DateNov 2009Posts958
Your answer kind of depends on how much you are going to shoot. If 100 rounds a month or less you could stick with 2 cavity molds. If more I would consider 4 or 6 cavity molds.
The Lee molds are adequate but are not what I would call a mold that will last a lifetime. Lyman seems to have quality control problems according to the "chatter" on this website.
The RCBS are very good but they only make 2 cavity molds. Any of the custom molds made by the vendors on this website are top notch. I don't think you will lose any money on any bullet mold that you choose to resell if it doesn't work for you.
You don't say what your intentions are but I like boolits of 120-125 gns for the 9mm. I prefer the TC better than the round nose. I don't have any experience with the .40 S&W but around 170gns is the most popular.
I also don't own a Glock but here is a summation. With the polygonal barrel of the Glock you need to confirm that your load is not leading the barrel excessively causing higher than normal pressures. Shoot a few and check for leading.
Also the Glock has more unsupported cartridge case than most pistols. Glock does this to improve reliability. The unsupported case can cause problems with heavy high pressure rounds and brass that has been reloaded multiple times. The .40 S&W was designed to operate at very high pressures with the 9mm not far behind.
The unsupported area of the cartridge has been reported to cause ruptured cases also known as KABOOMS. Glock recommends that only new ammo be fired in their pistols which insures that new brass and is not near as likely to cause a ruptured case.
Some Glock owners elect to go with an aftermarket barrel which eliminates the unsupported case and the barrel has conventional rifling.
There are numerous Glock owners that fire reloaded ammo but I would err on the side of caution and not load my rounds very hot.
Menner is offline Boolit Mold Join DateJan 2013LocationSeaford, DelawarePosts15
if you are looking for a mold that will let you cast a bollit for every occasion try this site
http://www.hollowpointmold.com/
I just got a hollow point mold from Erik for my 40 S&W it was $105 with shipping but I had it in about a week and it is a slick working mold this will allow you to be free from J Things by the time you buy a couple of boxes of HP ( if you can find them ) the mold will pay for its self
just my 2 cents
Menner is offline Boolit Mold Join DateJan 2013LocationSeaford, DelawarePosts15
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here is a couple of pick of the bollits

Muddydogs is offline Boolit Man Join DateApr 2012LocationUtahPosts148
Lee 358 105 SWC for a light plinking load in a 9mm Glock 26 and Lee 401 175 SWC in a XD .40 here.
I'm new to casting also.
I just ordered the Lyman 356242 to use in my sons M&P 9mm and I got the Lyman 452374 to use in my S&W 625.
I decided to start casting again because IDPA season is starting and it's getting too hard to find bullets.
All of my stuff should be here next weekend so maybe I'll see how much I remember from my younger days then.
Post your results and I'll do the same.
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Oreo is offline Boolit Master Join DateMar 2009Posts880
The thing about glocks having "unsupported", or poorly supported chambers was resolved with an apparent design modification about 10yrs ago. There's a picture floating around that shows the difference of the old and new chambers. 40cal Glocks made since then have plenty of chamber support. If you have a recent production glock I'd put this out of your head entirely as a non-issue.
plainsman456 is offline Boolit Master Join DateFeb 2011Posts436
For 40 caliber molds look at the ones NOE sell.

I got one of the 160 i think and one of the heavier ones.

For the nine i use several from RCBS,the weights go from 90-125.

Oreo is offline Boolit Master Join DateMar 2009Posts880
I own a pair of the .40 NOE "RG4" molds and they are first class molds. I don't think they are in stock at the moment though.

There are two .40 Miha group buys running right now for which I am the honch and boolit designer. No idea yet when they will go to production though. If you don't mind waiting they're a good option.

I shoot cast in my Glock. I use the 175 grain Lee mold. It's a 10mm, which is just the "man" version of the .40. So far, no problems. My chamber is fully supported, too!
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kweidner is offline Boolit Master Join DateJan 2011Posts300
I have the 180 noe in 40 and it is great. I also have his 134 rfn in 9mm. size the 9mm to .358 and let it go. I have shot it in ruger, glock smiths, taurus, high point, and springfields with no leading. I was reliability testing and this is a great mold. The 40 cal rn sized to 4015 has been shot in taurus, smith, and springfield so far. Only glock that it has been shot over a couple rounds in has a lone wolf bbl.
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I will also chime in on the relo in glock. If you have a gen 3 or gen 4 glock you should be fine. I have sent thousands of reloaded rounds down my gen 3 g19 and around 1500 cast. My carry rounds are my own 124gr xtp with hs-6 at max. I have tested a few hundred of them without issue. As long as you pay attention, use good load data, and size your boolits to the bore all will be fine. Slug the bore to get the size. Never rush when reloading or casting, and check your work often.
Yes I can buy it, but great pride can be taken when I make it myself!
I've had good experience with Lee's 125 gr RNFP. I can size it for my .38 and .357 (.,358"+) or my 9mms (.357"). This is what I've found to be useful, not what I've "heard around the web"...
Guys, thanks for all the informative replies. I just bought 2 gen 4's so they are the latest design, and hopefully won't have the feed issues the older ones did. I am very glad to read opinions about the molds from different mfgs, this is something I've wondered about since I decided to get into this hobby, who makes the "best" mold? It seems that the best ones are the ones that are custom made, and since I don't think I will have that big an assortment of them, the cost difference isn't that great, but the quality appears to be.

Thanks also for the links to the other threads, I need to get better at using the search tool here. I plan on making decent quantities of ammo, if I want to get good with my guns I need to practice with them, and seeing the absolute derth of ammo now, and for the forseeable future (it's already been 4 months, and nothing seems to be getting better in the ammo dept, though I am starting to see more guns become available, hence my recent purchases). I will keep reading, check out the links, and contact the mold mfgs that were referenced. Thank you again guys, it is really appreciated, because it is hard starting out with something like this, knowing what is good, bad, recommended or to be avoided, and getting it from people who have been there is worth it's weight in Gol.. umm Lead! Thanks!

I agree that ammo is real hard to find now....and I actually work for a ammo company!
Has anybody used the Lyman 356242 for 9mm and the Lyman 452374 for 45???
I'll take all advice.
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452374 is a good one, but I prefer H&G 68 200 SWC. My 356242
casts small and I have not tried it for 9mm. It may work in the
120 gr version, but I think the 90 gr may be awfully short for
this application. Consider Lee 356-120-TC.

Bill

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