Saturday, August 31, 2013

Need ideas for the ideal hunting trip

Alaska would be fantastic but prepare for a serious price tag. Last I heard, the going rate for a guided moose hunt was north of $12K.

Speaking of moose, supposedly the best place (best chances and price) is Newfoundland. Their moose are smaller and don't have big racks but there are lots of them and hunts are much more affordable.

If you want a "Southern" experience, try one of the south GA quail plantations. They treat you like a king.


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Tough Shot - 3 targets hit with 1 bullet

Check out this awesome video from our friends at Gunwerks: Mike Davidson attempts to hit 3 targets with 1 shot.

Tough Shot - 3 targets hit with 1 bullet - YouTube

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Firearm raffle (Illinois)

The Bureau County Mounted Search and Rescue Organization http://www.bcmsar.com/ is holding a fund raiser raffle. This year we are offering two firearms to one lucky ticket. A Henry Big Boy lever action carbine and a Ruger Vaquero stainless revolver with “ivory” grips. Both firearms are chambered for .38 Special / .357 Magnum. The Henry is engraved on the receiver with an image of the statue at Soldier’s and Sailor’s Park located in the town square in the county seat of Princeton Illinois. The Ruger has ornamental engraving. I have held both guns, and the engraving is very professionally done.

$25 per ticket (one ticket wins both guns) Drawing to be held 12/1/2013 or when all tickets are sold. Only 300 tickets will be sold. Proceeds will purchase needed equipment. The BCMSAR is not a taxing entity. All operating funds come from raffles such as this.

Winner is responsible for shipping fees and FFL transfer fees.

Sorry, no out of state ticket sales. Illinois residents only.

All local, state and federal laws apply. A valid Illinois Firearms Owner’s Identification card (FOID) is mandatory.

I have 10 tickets for sale in hand, and can get more if necessary. Please PM me for further information or to buy a ticket. You send a money order payable to “Bureau County Mounted Search and Rescue” along with a SASE and I will return your ticket promptly.

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Incredible Australian holster from High Noon Holsters

You ever seen a grown man giggle like a school girl? I did, yesterday.

Let me back up a bit, to when I discovered that High Noon Holsters had recently brought in something nobody else could, the new Red Nichols line of holsters, made in Australia and imported exclusively by High Noon Holsters. I had never heard of the man, so I investigated the section on High Noon’s web page showing who the man is, and all I can say is someone is missing a movie idea. http://www.highnoonholsters.com/Prod.../about_us.html
Long story short, the genius behind so many big name leather products in the past is now doing limited edition rigs for High Noon…and I wanted to see one. Had to see one – this stuff looked very nice. Only one small problem – I don’t own a pistol that he makes holsters for, as apparently it is very difficult to get the blue guns in Australia to form holsters around. Dagnabbit. Aha! I have a very good friend who has a Browning Hi Power, (which IS on the list!), who rarely carries it…because he always complains about the holster he has!
Did anyone else hear a bell and see a light go off? Thought so.
Fast forward to a slow boat leaving Australia, docking in Florida, and the Big Brown Truck arriving in Arizona. Now THAT’S a long trip for a piece of leather!
The first look was, well, wow. Really, that was the first word I said.
When I unbagged it, I realized that the stock photo on the website didn’t come close to doing it justice. This is one SOLID holster, quality in every stich and fold.

Well, without the gun, there wasn’t much I could do else, but lay in wait…er, “plan to surprise” my buddy with it soon That day came yesterday. Like I said – ever see a grown man giggle like a schoolgirl? I did.
He removed it from the plastic bag and was instantly in awe. His pistol, a well-worn and reliable Hi Power he’s had for many years, slid in as if the Red Nichols holster had been broken in for 6 months. The fit was, to overuse a word, perfect.

It took no time at all for him to throw it on,

The comments commenced, “This rides right where I like my holster.” “This is so comfortable I can’t believe it’s there.” "Where has this thing been all my life?"

The holster itself is built like a tank, and I have NO doubt whatsoever it will do very well in Arizona’s heat. Hey, it’s a Aussie – they like the heat, too. That slide shield was sung and smooth on my buddy, and he said it was placed in the exact spot to keep his blued pistol off the sweat producer, AKA, him.
The skeleton slots were much heavier duty than I had expected, overbuilt and molded so as to give zero movement on the belt. This holster was going nowhere he didn't want it to go. He kept marveling on the rugged construction, and yet with that ostrich accent, we had to conclude it IS possible to be beautiful AND tough. This rig got more than one look on the range. If we were in Texas, this would be a barbecue rig.

We didn't spend the whole time ooh and ahhing, after all – this is a working rig for a working sidearm, and it got used.

The final comment was the best, though…as I was pulling into my driveway after it was all over, he called me. I asked, “Don’t tell me, I left something behind?”
“No, but I thought I did – this holster is so comfortable I thought I left my gun behind!”
We’ll leave out the comment about waterproofing and showers…
Giggly school girls, I’m telling ya. He’s already looking to get another one for his Colt 1911.

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"O" ring replacement

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Waht to look for in a pre64 94?

Find the SN and look up when it was made here.

http://oldguns.net/sn_php/windateslookup.php?file=win1894.dat

Not all pre-64's are equal. Many overpay because they think any pre-64 has a lot of collectors value. And many sellers think so too. The pre-64's are better built guns, but most only bring a small premium over post 64's. Rare chamberings or configurations being the exception.

If it was made in the 1940's or older then I'd pay a premium. Much newer, and you should be able to buy a good working rifle for less than a new Marlin sells for.

If you find it is an older gun, get as much info as possible and get back with another post. Small details and condition can mean a big difference in value on the really old rifles.


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Friday, August 30, 2013

Best load choice, .308 Win, SMK 168

Hi guys,

this is my first post here, so I want to say hello from sunny Poland!

I spent half of the Sunday on a range while shooting some groups to find a sweet load for my rifle. Some of them are pretty good and I'm not sure which one to choose. Personally I think 41.8 gr would be the best, but I'm not sure if it will be fast enough for 600 meters shooting (I will be able to measure the exact velocity during my next visit on the range).

This load will be used for a target shooting with a distance up to 600 meters (I know the bullet might not be the best, but it can't be changed at the moment).

Some facts:
- groups were shot from 300 meters, the shooting conditions were moderate (slow wind, but a lot of sun -> mirage),
- rifle: Savage 12 F/TR (straight from the factory, no tuning, ~100 rounds fired up to this point), .308 cal,
- bullet: Sierra Match King 168 grain,
- powder: VV N140, primer: Federal 210M, brass: Lapua,
- OGL (length from the bottom to the ogive, measured using Hornady Bullet Comparator and Mitutoyo Caliper): 2,2185 inch,
- COAL: ~71.00 mm/2.800 inch (exact lenght depends on the bullet lenght, slightly varies),
- one big square on the targets below is 1 MOA @ 100 meters (so it's 1/3 MOA @ 300 meters).

41.6 grain

41.8 grain (ignore the flyer, I made a mistake when pulling the trigger)

42.3 grain

42.4 grain

42.7 grain

Thank you for any hints!

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Accurizing Your Inline Rifle

Curious. I wonder. Has anyone tried to glass bed a inline style of rifle?

2. If so who's brand of rifle/model did you do it too?

3. Any tricks of the trade you could share?

4. When completed was there an improvement in its overall accuracy seen?

5. Are there any Web Links available for this type of job concerning B/P rifles?

I'd appreciate any comments concerning this subject. Perhaps its been done. Maybe not. Its never to late to learn.

S/S


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Mesa Tactical 870 Stock

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Best floating hang used

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Who makes the best rifle brass?

I'm interested in rifle brass for loading the most accurate ammunition. I noticed that Hornady, Nosler, Norma, Rem, Win, Fed, Lapua, etc. all are head-stamping brass these days. Some are very expensive (Lapua). My days of sorting, culling, weighing & turning are pretty much over. What's the best brass to start with for standard chamber hunting & varmint rifles when you are seeking the best possible accuracy?

TIA...

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Weatherby, Browning, or Baretta?

I own 2 X-Bolts, a Medallion and Varmint. They both shoot sub-moa. The fit and finish on both is excellent. There is no way I would give either one up for a T3 or Vanguard. so guess which one I choose.

In the end, they will all shoot good. Pick which one you like the best and buy it and shoot it.

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Thursday, August 29, 2013

Bore Butter as a Case Lube ?

must have been a problem with the squirt bottle, the RCBS lube I use isn't that hard though it is a bit finnicky about how much it wants to spray and how fast. I wouldn't use bore butter just because of how long it would take to do each individual case but I don't forsee it gumming up your dies or anything.

I just use bore butter as a preservative/bullet lube in my muzzle stuffers.

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870 that refuses to open after nearly every shot.

Read this WHOLE thread:

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=434350&highlight=express

Especially "Notes to Myself" in last post.

Do NOT use the cheap steel-base shells now sold by the caseful at WalMart and the like.

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Tingle MFG. CO.

Just bought this pistol today. Got it from my pal and local BP gun shop owner Bill Hammond. This is a rare and strange one. Made by Bob Tingle of Shelbyville, Indiana. He passed away in 1978. His story from "Gun Digest" can be seen at: http://www.gundigest.com/gun-collect...n-still-amazes it's worth the read.

Single shot .45 cal. Very little to no info is available on these pistols. Never was a manual. Bill and I measured the barrel ID and as close as we can figure, it should take a .445 ball with a .015 patch. This is where I will start anyway. Will shoot it tomorrow and give you a full report good, bad or otherwise.

A few pics to go along with this.

The nameplate:

Side view:

Under the barrel, there is an Allen-set-screw. Loosen it just a bit to remove the barrel.

With the barrel removed. It comes out, breech, nipple and all.

Nipple (breech) end of the barrel: Treso, (AMPCO) nipple. Looks like it's been dry-fired a few times...

Well gentleman, what say ye?

Will update tomorrow with target pics, powder used, distance, etc.

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Second look, CZ 527CSR

I was quite surprised today when I gave my gunsmith friend his new High Noon Nichols holster at the range, because he had brought down the almost completed CZ 527 "CSR" stock I had asked for.

This got a LOT of look as the range itself was FULL to bursting, and a few lucky folks got to shoulder it. Do remember, this stock is not yet complete - he gave it a couple quick coats of linseed oil to protect it while out today, but will be sanded down and final finish applied soon. Ah, how I remember linseed oil, oiling the stocks of our Springfield 1903A3 rifles in JROTC...

Without further ado, the 527CSR, almost done.

There's that odd thing...isn't it?

You see these on "tactical" rifles and plastic buttstocks, but not in wood. I like it. The design is LAGS own, and while there are some final tweaks to be done, (mag release button will be reshaped and fitted, cutouts for both mag releases will be reshaped, final sanding, shaping, bluing on the spare magwell, etc.), I enjoyed the HECK out of shooting it again! Stock material is mahogany, for those who are interested.

The genius who designed this, LAGS Custom Gunsmithing of Mesa, AZ.

The lucky fat guy.

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Erma La22 help needed.

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Decades old egg fight conviction causes rewrite of state law

This guy, named James Gorham, got into an egg fight in 1971, got arrested, paid a $10 fine, and that was that ... until January of this year.

Over the decades he has owned numerous firearms, is an avid target shooter, and has had his handgun permits renewed on numerous occasions. It was when he tried to purchase a new handgun in December of 2012 that his trolley went off the tracks.

In January he got a letter from the state police that he had been disqualified from handgun ownership, his permit was revoked, and he was to turn in all handguns in his possessions forthwith. This he did (don't get me started on that one ...).

The key sentence in this story? "They told me I had been involved in domestic violence and I told them, `You've got the wrong person.' "

Domestic violence? It was an egg fight between himself, a friend, and a teen who was a stranger. How does that qualify as "domestic?"

This news fell on the ears of his legislator; and he added an amendment to the new law that would exempt people like this man from further confiscations.

Don't you just love sanity when it strikes?

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But his plight caught the attention of House Minority Leader Lawrence F. Cafero Jr., R-Norwalk, who successfully introduced a change in gun legislation that will allow people like Gorham, with lower-level misdemeanors adjudicated before 1994 that do not involve drugs or firearms, to hold onto their guns. So for those of you who see nothing wrong with the Lautenberg Amendment you need to remember that every law will be taken to its farthest and wildest extremes. This is but a single example. __________________
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Wednesday, August 28, 2013

21st birthday what handgun?

That's a nice dad you have!

For that price tag I would avoid Kimber if I were you, from what I've been led to understand they aren't worth what you pay for them. Once again this is from what I have heard, I have never fired a Kimber pistol. They are pretty.

If I was spending over $1000 (of course not wveryone is the same as me)
I would be looking at 3 choices; an H&K P30, a Sig P226 or a Sig 1911, I really like the look of the stainless models, but also the nightmare. I've shot all three and I like the 1911 the best, but if ammo capacity matters to you at all it might not be a good choice.
Personally, I greatly prefer the grip on the P30, and HK's in general over SIGs DA/SA guns. Plus you can expect the HK to be as reliable as they come, the P30 is the continuation of a line of Pistols (P30, P2000, USP) evolving/devolving from the MK23. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heckler_%26_Koch_Mark_23

If you are interested in 1911's SIG is a great choice; and I hear (but have not shot) that Smith and Wesson makes a great 1911 as well and I beleive you could find one in that price range.

You know, if I made the choice right now (as in if I were in your shoes) I would probably pick a SiG 1911.

http://www.sigsauer.com/CatalogProdu...tols-1911.aspx

The number of choices is outstanding, I imagine you could find a 1911 for any taste in this lineup.

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VP Joe Bidens tactical shotgun techniques

I can't think of any situation where warning shots are justified.

If you'll remember some one took Uncle Joe's advise and dumped a couple rounds through his door when he had prowlers.

He was arrested for reckless discharge of a firearm. This was VA I believe.

As to his advise on the shotgun. Just his comment was made I was asked about it in my Ladies Self Defense Class.

To answer I brought in a shot gun and rifle (AR) and had them shoot it to make up their own mind.

Every one found the rifle was easier to use. I'll admit it was the recoil of the shot gun they found objectionable. Non-of the ladies had fired an AR before this occasion. It tool less then a minute to shoot them how to put the magazine in, use the safety and get the rifle into battery.

I don't recommend any type of firearm, I believe in providing as many types as possible and letting the shooter decide what is best for them in their situation. For my ladies class, none thought the shotgun was for them.

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Tikka T3 develops very LOW velocities

tkms002,

It has been my experience after having a chronograph, that there seems to be three basic grouping of rifles as per velocities.

First and largest group, are those which product velocities well blow published data, and in some cases a couple hundred FPS - OR MORE - below what is expected.

Then, the second and smaller group are those rifles that come close to matching published data.

Then the 3rd and smallest group of rifles are those that exceed published data, all while staying within the published guide lines and without signs of excess pressures.

As was alluded to above, this can be attributed to a number of reasons, bore size and condition, chamber dimensions, Amount or absents of free bore, case wall thickness, not to mention the lot to lot differences in powders.

I have seen velocity drop with no other changes, by about a 100fps with just the change from one lot number of powder to another.

One time in a Speer loading manual, they listed a velocity for a 300 Win Mag that would make the high velocity lovers slobber all over them selves. Good luck to come any where close.

My test were with a rifle that would be mid range in the three grouping, yet it was hundreds of fps off the listed velocities.

WOW, to have a jug of that powder lot number.

So, bare in mind that the critters will never know that you bullet didn't make the listings, but your experience is not out of line.

Sorry that your rifle appears at this point to be one of the first group, but remember it and enjoy the next time you chronograph a friends hot wizz banger and it is a couple hundred or more FPS slower then he/she had expected. It happens.

Another example, I had a 30/06 that was in the slow group. I had the chamber opened up to a 30 Gibbs which makes for a sizable increase in powder volume plus the guy that chambered the rifle allowed the reamer to run a bit deep and the increase in powder volume was even greater then normal for this wildcat.

Well even with all this increase powder space, the 30 Gibbs never shot at velocities high then what can be expected with a mid group or fast group standard 30/06. It was simply a slow rifle even on it's best day.

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Walther PP .22 LR

The eagles you mention sound like they're probably Nazi proof marks. The Walther PP was only ever made in two countries: Germany and France. If the gun is pre-WWII, then it's almost certainly a German-made pistol. A relatively easy way to tell the difference between a pre-WWII and post WWII Walther PP series gun is the arc of the safety. Pre-war guns have a 90 degree arc to the safety lever, but it was changed to a 60 degree arc shortly after the war. __________________
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Way to go Diamond K Brass

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My Glock 27 :)

Here Is my Glock 27 subcompact .40

I Love the .40 because
-More Mass then 9mm
-More Expansion then 9mm
-More Velocity then 45 acp
-More Rounds then 45 acp

Its like mating the 9mm and 45 together to create a better all around bullet
-not meaning to start a caliber war JMHO

I also have a Lonewolf distributors 9mm barrel for If I feel like "Plinking"

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Tuesday, August 27, 2013

Chamber Brush

I bought a Pro-Shot Chamber Brush. What POS. The bristles started falling out the first time it was used. (It jams in the forcing cone and if you twist it, the shank opens up and it loses brass bristles.) I think the problem is some kind of brass wire used to form the shank, instead of steel.

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How "blunt" do my boolits need to be?

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Goofy Movie Gun Lines?

Watched Clint Eastwood "Magnum Force" last night. That's the one where the dirty cops, 4 motor officers, form a vigilante squad and murder various crime figures around the city.

Dirty cop (David Soul) does a traffic stop on crime boss, and shoots the guy six times with a 6" 357 Mag. Later, when the detectives are discussing it - "This guy apparently enjoyed it. He emptied a full magazine into him"

Then somewhere else in the movie (this one is not a line but a visual) same dirty cop screws a silencer onto the end of same magnum revolver. Resulting in that familiar "fwwwwt fwwwwt" sound when he kills his mark.

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Huge WOW factor ... the Sig Sauer P220

Huge WOW factor ... the Sig Sauer P220 I've shot so many pistols by now that I've kind of gotten used to be not being "wowed" at the experience of shooting a different brand of semi-auto chambered in .45 ACP until.....the Sig Sauer P220 came along. Glock fans, this will shock and horrify you, but I traded my Glock 17 plus a few hundred bucks to acquire this German made P220 and ... I could not be more happy. (Don't worry Glockies...the G26 remains my EDC of choice!).

Here's a video I made with the Sig. I've never been more accurate with any handgun literally out of the box. I had a bit of a microphone problem (forgot to turn the darn thing on!), but you can see the results after putting a 7 round magazine, then a 10 round magazine through it from 30 feet out, I was able to get most of them through one jagged hole 1.5" to 2" wide, and for me...that's some Olympic level shooting. :thumb:

LINK TO VIDEO HERE.

The Sig Sauer P220 is the the handgun that made Sig a world player when it comes to handguns. It is rugged, high quality and extremely accurate (in the right hands, of course, not necessarily mine!). The pistol featured in this video was made in the mid-1990s in Germany and is one more highly sought after by P220 purists and fans.

(1975 - Present) Type: Pistol Calibers: 9x19mm (discontinued), .45ACP Weight: 1.9 lbs (0.86 kg) Length: 7.7 in (19.6 cm) Barrel length: 4.4 in (11.2 cm) Capacity: 9 (9x19mm), 8 (.45 ACP) Fire Modes: Semi-Auto (SA/DA, DAK, SAO)

For a great article all about the history of the Sig P220 and all its modern variants, read this article from the National Rifle Association magazine, "The American Rifleman" and if you are NOT a member of the NRA...shame on you! Join today.

Here's the American Rifleman article:
SIG Sauer P220

Be sure to visit Sig's web site for all the variants available today:
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Huge WOW factor ... the Sig Sauer P220

Huge WOW factor ... the Sig Sauer P220 I've shot so many pistols by now that I've kind of gotten used to be not being "wowed" at the experience of shooting a different brand of semi-auto chambered in .45 ACP until.....the Sig Sauer P220 came along. Glock fans, this will shock and horrify you, but I traded my Glock 17 plus a few hundred bucks to acquire this German made P220 and ... I could not be more happy. (Don't worry Glockies...the G26 remains my EDC of choice!).

Here's a video I made with the Sig. I've never been more accurate with any handgun literally out of the box. I had a bit of a microphone problem (forgot to turn the darn thing on!), but you can see the results after putting a 7 round magazine, then a 10 round magazine through it from 30 feet out, I was able to get most of them through one jagged hole 1.5" to 2" wide, and for me...that's some Olympic level shooting. :thumb:

LINK TO VIDEO HERE.

The Sig Sauer P220 is the the handgun that made Sig a world player when it comes to handguns. It is rugged, high quality and extremely accurate (in the right hands, of course, not necessarily mine!). The pistol featured in this video was made in the mid-1990s in Germany and is one more highly sought after by P220 purists and fans.

(1975 - Present) Type: Pistol Calibers: 9x19mm (discontinued), .45ACP Weight: 1.9 lbs (0.86 kg) Length: 7.7 in (19.6 cm) Barrel length: 4.4 in (11.2 cm) Capacity: 9 (9x19mm), 8 (.45 ACP) Fire Modes: Semi-Auto (SA/DA, DAK, SAO)

For a great article all about the history of the Sig P220 and all its modern variants, read this article from the National Rifle Association magazine, "The American Rifleman" and if you are NOT a member of the NRA...shame on you! Join today.

Here's the Rifleman article: http://www.americanrifleman.org/Article ... 648&cid=19

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1862 Colt 36. cal. Police

ASM went out of business in 2002 or there abouts.

Original (1st Generation) Colt's could be had with brass, (silver) plated brass, or blued iron BS/TG. IIRC, standard finish on Picket Police and Pocket Navies was silver plated.

An ASM from 1994 should be pretty good. Wasn't till later that their quality began to slide.

BTW, nice one.

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Monday, August 26, 2013

Traditions mountaineer .50

Welcome to the forum.

Having said that, I must tell you I am no hunter. But there are plenty of folks here who are very seriously into it.

You'll get some good info.

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Tell me about the 686 pro 4"

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Dogtown hp vs varmint nightmare x-rteme ?


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44 grain CB in .223 ideas

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I'm looking for ideas for this bullet (Lyman 225438, actual weight w/ GC 47 grains)
in .223. I have many powders, incl. 296 and 2400. I want to keep it around 15-1800 fps.
Suggestions?

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Glock owners: getting rid of 6 o clock hold?

AK103K

To tell some one they are wrong! Especially in utilizing ways to keep us alive, has never been my intent.

But not passing on something we have learned, taught, and tested, is being remiss in my view.

This is not new, not sure who invented it. But I taught it to LEO Firearms Instructors, for twenty years. As a board member of IALEFI.

Started out calling it the SAS Canada PUNCH DRAW. The name of my first training Company, forgot to renew the license! Lost the name.

So it became simply the Punch Draw.

The mechanics are simple, moving a holstered pistol, from the belt, to the point that it is fired, at the threat, in the shortest possible distance, and time.

Note, you are not lifting the sights up to the target, as you would, as you described, if the pistol is already in your hands.

Drop gun hand to pistol, establish first and final grip, lift pistol from holster, as it clears the holster, with the nose of the barrel, lift the pistol with your wrist, to be aligned with your forearm, now direct the pistol at the target, like it was a punch, the strong hand meets the support hand, level with the upper chest, three things happen now together, your eyes see the sights, the hands stop forward movement, the trigger is pressed! A PUNCH! The first shot goes off. That is what you did, there is nothing faster.

I always found them to be very simple and intuitive. You just pick up the front dot as the gun comes up, put it on the target, and the two rear dots are just slightly lower as the gun is coming up (giving the impression of a shallow triangle and helping in indexing the gun) and rock into a nice even line as the gun comes into presentation. The bullet goes to where the center dot sits. You get instant horizontal and vertical alignment without having to think about it.

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RG Industries Model 26 .25 ACP?

So the only thing I really hear about RG guns is that they are bottom of the barrel, some of the worst guns ever made.

I heard one story (and I don't know if it's true), but as small cheaply made handguns are commonly called "Saturday Night Specials", I heard RG manufactured a .357 magnum revolver called the "saturday night special". Apparently, due to recoil, the crappy grips would actually scratch up your hands.

I really don't know anything about this company, or this gun. I see some of their guns on gunbroker, like one of those .22 short revolvers, and looking it up on youtube, they would actually throw gunpowder residue, or something, on your hands and burn you.

After a quick Wikipedia search, apparently, they are part of Umarex now. I also know (or, I think) it was the RG Model 14S that was used by John Hinckley Jr. in the attempted assassination of President Reagan.

Pertaining to the gun, I hear they have design flaws all over the place. I also heard the 26 can fire unintentionally.

I guess RG closed after losing it's insurance over several lawsuits pertaining to public safety.

http://www.surplusrifleforum.com/viewtopic.php?p=13113

Besides that, though, I really have no information about this gun. That link kind of explains the company, though.

What do you think I should do with the thing? I don't think I can get too much money for it. Condition-wise, it's about this picture or better...

The good news is, I haven't heard of them blowing up. Actually, this is my Grandpa's. He used to carry it in his pocket, loaded. obviously, unintentional discharge wasn't an issue. He lost the magazine, though.

I was thinking of taking it off his hands

But really, I was wondering if anyone had experience with one of these? Seems like some were reliable enough and some couldn't fire a magazine without at least one issue.

Shall I just find a magazine and see how it works? I was thinking I'd go to a police gun buy-back and actually make money on the thing... What do you guys think?

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speed loaders for ruger lcr .357?

Have you tried HKS or Safariland?

If you're a gentleman of taste, you should check out 5 Star.

http://www.5starfirearms.com/

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marlin 336 30/30 misfires

I have a 1968 336RC that doesn't hit the primer hard enough.

The new rear firing pin in the picture is hitting something, you can see the sharp line going across it. Lots of misfires. It feels smooth going up but has a sharp edge going down. What would it be hitting to cause this? I didn't have anything to loose, so I smoothed up everything on the original pin. The firing pin seems to move freely until the last fraction of an inch and has resistance.

These are the thing tried:

new coil spring and rear bolt spring and firing pin.
Cleaned inside of bolt with bore brush and turning a drill bit by hand to catch any hard stuff.
measured head space by measuring dead primer being pushed in
tried thickest rimmed cases when reloading. Factory loads misfire too.
Smoothed up front firing pin.

A one piece firing pin dealer said he couldn't guarantee his pins would work, and mentioned something is hanging up inside the bolt.

I may try some crud cutter spray in the forward part under pressure rather than just soaking.

But the fact remains that rear pin is hitting something it shouldn't.

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HELP - Remington 722 in 222 Rem not playing fair

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Just picked up a really nice Remington model 722 in 222 Rem. It does not like the NOE 225-55 FP or the BRP 226-47. The NOE boolit printed a nice 2 foot group at 50 yards. No keyholing just all over the place. The 47 grainers were a bit better but not much.
Anyone that has one please chime in with your favorite loads in this rifle. I just replaced the scope to eliminate that possibility. I'll shoot it with J words tomorrow morning just to try to get a group.
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Did you clean that barrel that may have 50 years of copper fouling in it and would destroy cast bullet accuracy?
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Did you clean that barrel that may have 50 years of copper fouling in it and would destroy cast bullet accuracy?have you tried it with jacketed bullets? clean it with kroil oil and Remington bore cleaner, several times, then check for copper, if it shows copper, keep cleaning it. if it won't shoot jacketed bullets well, it'll never shoot cast bullets.
One of my all time favorite rifles. With some gun work mine shot 1/2" groups at 250 yards with Hornady bullets. Gun and loads long gone and I never tried cast. I used 3031.
I also suspect copper build up. I would use Butch's Bore Shine or Sweets in the barrel.
Check bedding, I free floated mine. I bedded the action and recoil lug. As old as the gun is I bet the wood is pushing somewhere.
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If your bore is in good shape,then id say keep the speed down around 2400f.p.s.,or less,,and that ol rifle should shoot very well.Never heard of a .222 anything,that wouldnt shoot............
The barrel was very clean when I got it. I have already scrubbed the bore with both Butches and Sweets, No green patches at all and the rifling is crisp. Same load that I use in both of my Remington 700 ADL's, in 222. I suspect the scope, I hope! I'll find out shortly.
My Rem 722 (made in the 50s) had a rifling twist of 1 in 14" and would not shoot anything longer than the 45 grain slugs with any kind of accuracy. Also the barrel was really skinny- whippy and would change the POI when I attached a sling. Free-floating and action bedding with Acra-Glas helped a lot but it still didn't like long bullets.
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FIXED IT ! I found that I was getting an off center lube star. Not sure if you would call it off center, but it had a greater buildup on one side. I could not see a ding or anything, but I re-crowned it. Then shot a group of j-words at 50 yds it printed one hole. Tried 12gr of 4759 and the NOE 226-55 and the Mihec Nato boolit, both shot 5 in a dime size hole at 50 yds. I'm a happy camper again!
That makes me a happy camper. Wonderful job.
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New AR fodder

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Finally pulled the trigger on boolits for a couple of AR's. Bought an RCBS 55gr mold. My first from them. Cast them hot and fast as others have suggested. Plain ww dropped in water. Got the freechex maker and ran them thru a Lee .225 sizer to crimp the check. Used .011 thick flashing. Now all I need to do is lube and load. I'm going to use H4895 and hopefully work up a load that is accurate and will work the action.
start at 18 grs and come up from there.
it's all an educated guess,,,, till the trigger is pulled.

the more i find out about shootin boolits, the more it contradicts everything i ever learned about shooting jaxketed.

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I was thinking about 20 but I'll take your advice.
Start at 16 gr with a 1/3 - 1/2 gr dacron filler if your barrel twist is faster than 9".

Larry Gibson

I got my RR to cycle well with 18 grains. BTW, if your using a dillon 550 to load those with 4895 you may run into some bridging. I had to go simple and get the powder funnel adapter and pour each load, one at a time.
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I'm still loading 223 on a single stage press. I use a powder dispenser but run each load over a digital scale. I bought an older Dillon at an auction for $15 and am in the process of setting it up for the 223. I have an extra Lee double disk dispenser that I'm going to try on it.
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Just got back from the range

Took along five tools.

New Henry in .357 and a Cattleman also in .357. Unfortunately I neglected to take along any .357 ammunition so it was a little embarrassing.

I had loaded some .45LC for a comparison of 777 and Pyrodex. The platform was the Rossi M92 Carbine. Fun to shoot. I noted about 70 fps more with 777 than with Pyrodex from that rifle. About 1160 as compared with 1230. The load was 27 grains by volume from a Redding powder measure. Used a card and then cornmeal for filler. I sure do like that power measure for cartridges.

Also took along the trapdoor carbine with the new sight. Perhaps you recall I made a new sight for it because the first one was too short. This one is too tall which I was pretty sure would be the case. I'll take it down a bit and then smooth it up at the range the next time out.

Took the new Sharps along as well. Very interesting comparison with the trapdoor. I was using a 405 RNFP from a Lee mold. That was backed up by 70 grains of 777. Both rifles shot between 1250 and 1300 fps. I imagine that I can hold a closer group with the Sharps. No surprise since the Trapdoor is 130years old. The Sharps sight is a little more user friendly.

I did learn something about the Sharps action. It is not a good idea to close the breach with the hammer forward. The rifle discharges when you close the breach. This is why I never shoot with anyone else around.

Saw about a six or seven foot snake. It did not appear to be interested in shooting, so I left it alone.

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Saturday, August 24, 2013

Why I like my Glocks.

I must be strange, guns are like golf clubs (I don't play golf)..

Each serves a particular purpose, and RARELY do you find one that fills every need.

All gunmakers make pretty good guns, or they would not be in business for very long..
Each may make a lemon, or a poor design every now and then, but they either make changes, or discontinue that model and move on.

I think gun makers are like car makers, some people like Fords, some Chevy, some Chrysler, Honda, and no other brand will do for them.
But each one fills a particular niche.

I buy a gun that fills a specific need, that FEELS good to me, regardless of who makes it.

My target .22 pistol is a S&W auto, my target .22 rifle is a military issue Mossberg M44US made in 1943, my target center fire pistol, a 1911 I built my self a long time ago on an Essex frame, my daily carry, self defense pistol, a glock .40, my small "pocket gun" is a Kahr pm9 with night sights, my target center fire rile, is a Ar-15 I built myself in 300 blackout, using a upper and lower from Essential Arms in krotz springs, la. (great people to deal with)

Bottom line?

I choose what I want, and like.
Not what my friends like, or tell me what they think I should buy..

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What exactly is 5 in 1 Blank Brass?

Starline 5 in 1 Blank Brass

Can these be used in a 44 mag revolver? I just find it interesting they use large rifle primers and just a few weeks ago those were all I could find so that could come in handy. It also states in the description that it's not intended to be reloaded? Is it really brass or something else?


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Cast vs Forged Frames

This debate will rage until the end of time.

I own 1911s with forged frames, and I own 1911s with cast frames. They all shoot the same.

It won't settle the debate, but it is interesting to not that FN Herstal always used forged frames for the Browning Hi-Power. Until they introduced the Hi-Power in .40 S&W. Contrary to prevailing lore about strength, they changed from forged frames to investment cast frames when they introduced the .40 S&W because they felt the cast frames would BETTER stand up to the higher power round.


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S&W 625-3 .45 Colt: New to Me Purchase...Paid Too Much???

I recently fell prey to my friendly LGS. I walked in to just look and chat. And, ended up dropping more cash AFTER I swore off buying for a while.

Did I pay too much???

-S&W 625-3
-.45 Colt
-"45 Cal Model of 1989" lasered on the barrel
-outside of pawl mark on the cylinder there are no other blemishes on the gun
-included was 100 handloads of 250 grain cast bullets
-Total out the door: $700.00

P.S.
The trigger on this gun is the smoothest, easiest trigger that I have ever operated.
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Newbie Reloading set up

I assume you'll eventually get to rifle reloading.

Some products that will assist.

Case length headspace gage

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/880646/le-wilson-case-length-headspace-gage-308-winchester?cm_vc=S014

Redding Competition Seater Die

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/200390/redding-competition-seater-die-308-winchester?cm_vc=S014

Hornady Cam-Lock Case Trimmer Kit

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/315831/hornady-cam-lock-case-trimmer-kit

And above all READ, YOUTUBE, ASK, LEARN, PRACTICE!

And write everything down! Get a laoding manual and keep track of what gives you the best groupings. Work your loads up accurately. inspect your cases carefully, do each step by the book ensuring you are doing everything the same way (and the right way) every time. After working up a series of loads you'll find what works best.

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Friday, August 23, 2013

Warne Maxima Q.D. Rings


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Old Today, 11:30 AM sandog's AvatarWarne Maxima Quick detachable rings, medium height, steel. I love these rings, have them on most of my rifles. Only Q.D. rings I like better are the Talley's , but they are twice the cost. I have too many rings, bases, so thought I'd sell this pair I'm not using. I didn't save the packaging, or I could return them to Brownells for a refund. New, in perfect condition. Will work on any Weaver type or Picatinny base. Asking $45, shipping cost included in that figure. Reply With Quote Reply




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Red dye/paint on shot brass

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Going through a bag of 9 mm brass to ready it for reloading and noticed a dozen or so Seller & Beloit shells. ("Sellier & Bellot, Prague, Czechoslovakia, now Czech Republic, Factory in Vlasim)" ....thanks to the guide.

They have a bright red stain/paint all over and around the primer. Is this some kind of glue, lock-tight etc. or just cosmetic? This is the first and only time I've seen anything like this on ammunition and since I have made it nearly a day without asking a stupid question. Anybody got an answer?

Primer sealant; no biggie. Got some .303 and 7.62X39 with some of that on them.
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To me it's a red flag. I have no serious problems with S&B cases, but the primer pockets are a smidgen smaller than others. Consequently I accumulate them and ever so often load them separately. I do better when all the pockets "feel" the same.
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To me it's a red flag. I have no serious problems with S&B cases, but the primer pockets are a smidgen smaller than others. Consequently I accumulate them and ever so often load them separately. I do better when all the pockets "feel" the same.I collect them until I have a bunch and then standardize them with my Lyman reamer chucked into a drill motor.
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I collect them until I have a bunch and then standardize them with my Lyman reamer chucked into a drill motor.I've done that too with my old school Lyman hand reamer. But what works for me is having them all feel the same as I seat primers. An occasional tight pocket just throws me off and I tend to seat them high. But when they all feel the same, I can get a good work flow going and seat them consistently.
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I would treat them like they have a crimped or military primer pocket. Personally I throw them in the pile to swage them into 40 cals.

S&B brass is my least favorite brass to reload. The pockets are just to darn tight.

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I like the S&B 45 acp brass. They are a little tight the first loading. After that they are no different than how Win. feels. They seem to last a very long time also. This is 45 brass. The only other S&B brass I have used is 7.62x54 and I do not recommend that or the Win. The Win 7.62 is made by S&B and the head stamp is the only difference. The pockets are too small and too shallow and the brass is very hard. Does not last very long.
I haven't been able to get the sealer off no matter how many times it gets loaded and sent back into the tumbler afterwards.
But it makes me happy to be able to just look for the red flag then toss in the scrap bucket, the pockets are too tight and it is awfully hard brass, hard enough that it crushes cases and scrapes the plating off of my Berrys bullets where as the Win-Fed-CCI brass does not. I rank it with military brass in the 9mm; not worth the trouble when I can find piles of other brass on the ground after each weekend.
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