Thursday, May 16, 2013

Grease from ATF and soap?

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I was doing a little reading regarding the attributes of paraffinic vs. naphthenic oils with respect to grease making and got to wondering, why not try soaping up an ATF? I think I'll initially try a cheapo Wally World brand, but which formulation? I believe there are some formulations that are friction modified and some that are not. Anyway, what does that mean? Do the manufacturers add components to increase friction or decrease it? I assume the manufacturers are playing with the shifting characteristics when they use "friction modifiers".

MJ

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Outta my league, but I think I'd start with an MSDS to identify the components of different ATFs...
Looks like there's little difference between the Dexron and Mercon specifications. There was (still is, I guess) a Ford spec that called for different (lack of?) friction modifiers. The Mobil brand that's 100% synthetic might be interesting... assuming it's cheap enough and available at Wally World.

MJ

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Type F usually is the gritty stuff. Lets the clutches slip less when shifting is how I understood it.
Rich
Type F usually is the gritty stuff. Lets the clutches slip less when shifting is how I understood it.Yeah, your right... I found this somewhere on Mobil's website:

"The frictional characteristics of an automatic transmission fluid are an important factor in the design and operation of the transmission. All Ford transmissions built prior to 1977, and certain models that continued in use during 1977-1980, were designed for a high-friction fluid that allowed the shifting clutches to lock up or engage quickly. Ford specification M2C 33F covers this type of product, which is commonly referred to as "Type F" fluid."

I don't know about "gritty" but the flash point of only 320F turns me away from melting soap in it?

MJ

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